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NT intervention extension laws set to pass… continued


Democratic Labor Senator, John Madigan.

NATIONAL: The federal opposition is about to team up with the Labor government to extend the Howard-era Northern Territory intervention program for a decade.

Debate on government’s Stronger Futures Bill was continuing in the Senate on Thursday night.

Democratic Labor Party senator John Madigan told the chamber the government was “imposing penalties from afar” rather than working at the grassroots to help communities help themselves.

Senator Madigan said that close to $1 billion had been spent on the intervention so far with little success.

He raised concerns the punitive measures disempowered people.

“The fact the suicide rate has doubled in NT communities since the intervention began should not be discounted,” he told the chamber.

Greens senator Lee Rhiannon told the Senate that Labor was “trashing its proud history in indigenous affairs”, singling out former prime minister Paul Keating’s famous Redfern speech and Kevin Rudd’s apology to the Stolen Generations.

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13 Comments

  1. Michael Webb
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    Doesn’t the DLP saddle up with the Coalition in its voting preferences and in its sympathies historically and to this day?

    The DLP is a fine bunch to talk about ALP and Coalition consensus when they the DLP call themselves ‘real Labor’ yet preference the Coalition. What an odd bunch.

  2. Andrew Jackson
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 6:49 am | Permalink

    Is this the same MIchael WEbb who was ousted as President of NSW Branch of DLP a year or so ago? Is the odd bunch that he is talking about the same bunch that are expanding rapidly in NSW regional towns? Why did the DLP not grow in Wagga Wagga when Mr Webb was President?

    Unfortunately for any party responsible enough to know that Preference should ultimately be allocated till exhaustion a consequensvce is that either ALP or Coalition have to be put above the other.

    We have seen in both Queensland and NSW that neither ALP or LNP are fit to govern.

    Prior to the last NSW State election MR Webb who did you support or is your political commentary totally negative.

    If as I suspect MIchael Webb is the ex president of NSW DLP he is aperson who led a party to no where and as soon as he departed it grew. A dose of MIchael Webb once expelled from the body would appear to be medfically beneficial for an organisation.

    The DLP from 1955 preferenced those who they thought were the better candidates. In some cases this was ALP (Ask Gordon Freeth in 1968 when a Liberal Cabinet MInister was defeated by DLP preferences because the Gorton Governments pro-communist foreign policy or Wyatt Roy in 2010 when my own preferences as a DLP Candidate in Longman went to ALP because of Roy’s pro-abortion position. I am no lobnger a member of the DLP but ideologically I still support the DLP platform. It was the ibnabilioty of the DLP toi function effectively that caused me to resign. Mr Webb does not support the DLP position he is ALP ideologically.
    MY recommendation to all voters is that after trhe next election we ensure that NO ALP NO LNP & NO GREENS are in Parliament. Vote for Katter’s AUstralian Party and if you can’t do that a vote for the DLP, Family FIrst, CHristian DEmocrats or Indepenfdents is preferable.

    Please Mr Webb tell us who we should vote for at the next election.
    Andrew Jackson
    apjackson@hotkey.net.au

    • Michael Webb
      Posted July 4, 2012 at 11:41 pm | Permalink

      There have been no expulsions from the DLP in NSW as you suggest Andrew. Michael O’Donohue carries on leading the Branch. The NSW Electoral Commission recognises him and not those running that other grouping that goes by the name of ‘branch’.

      It will be two years this November that the groups opposed to me and my good friend Michael O’Donohue have been writing away to the NSW Commissioner of the Electoral Commission trying to take the position of Registered Officer. Those attempts have, to date, failed. Michael O’DOnohue and his Executive and the Branch he leads, continues.

      Of course I’m ideologically committed to the better side to the ALP; not all of the better side fits with the DLP. History shows that fantasists indulge in finger-pointing major parties ( much like ahistorical amateur theological tryhards think they are more Catholic than the Pope) if I may use that analogy.
      I certainly won’t be voting for the poltical paries you mention.
      I’ll be voting ALP as I always do.
      The DLP is only good for getting one or two people into an upper house and that;s about it. I do it in the spirit of the majority of average ALP branch members against middel class knobs; and not for any alleged higher reason that your crowd might offer.
      Jack Lang and even his opposite numbers the McKellites of NSW and John Lee of NZ were always better Laborites than the smallish ecclesiastical activists and entryists of DLP pedigree. The few DLP and ALP Groupers were soon supplanted by by a kind of politico religiousity that has always been unrealistic to my reading of history and of group interaction in the ALP and the unions.

  3. Mick Wilson
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 9:47 pm | Permalink

    Great work DLP John Madigan.

    Michael Webb still in denial.

  4. Posted July 7, 2012 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    A search of the NSW Electoral Commission’s list of registered parties indicates that Messrs O’Donohue and Webb are not in denial at all.
    Despite the efforts of the other highly organised grouping, they have been unable to have Mr O’Donohue removed as Registered Officer for the NSW Branch of the DLP . This Branch was created before the non-members ever came along to invent their own. The Johnny come latlies talk about their horror of moral relativism whilst not accepting that they never were members of Mr O’Donohue’s State Branch.
    http://www.elections.nsw.gov.au/candidates_and_parties/registered_political_parties/list_of_registered_parties/local_parties

  5. Mick Wilson
    Posted July 16, 2012 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    Both John Stephens and Michael Webb are both in la la land. Talk about minor party politics going crazy. Webb and Stephens obviously don’t want to see their party grow, airing all their dirty laundry.
    A Sydney friend told me that Mr Webb has personally ruined the party’s reputation in that state.
    A pity as John Madigan seems a genuine bloke. Do Webb and Stephens even support John Madigan?

  6. Paul Ivey
    Posted July 16, 2012 at 7:26 pm | Permalink

    This Webb chap sounds very confused. First he says he is a ALP voter then he references himself to a party register for the DLP. I think Mr Wilson is correct in some regard that Webb is in denial but I reckon also that the DLP run by Webb (& whoever a mr O’donohue is) is doomed to stay at the bottom of the pile. Shame about that as we need a real labor party

  7. Posted July 17, 2012 at 8:45 am | Permalink

    Michael Webb is and always has been a member of the ALP.
    The DLP warned and campaigned heavily against the income debit card and has done so since Kevin Rudd made the Statement that ” We’ll try it first in NT before rolling it out across the country” made in 2007 on 4BC chris Smiths programme.
    The DLP was the first party to attack the Carbon Tax and issued coreflutes as early as 2007 and is well known as the “thinking mans party”. (Something that Webb obviously lacks).
    The DLP supports the distributist economic model and as such is totally opposite the socialist left model the Webb so obviously supports.

    • Michael Webb
      Posted July 22, 2012 at 1:33 am | Permalink

      What you say “always has been” and also what you say is so “obvious” is false Tony.
      You accuse and blurt out statements that are simply untrue.
      On the other hand, you and many of your DLP mates network socially and politically with non-Labor people.
      Your mates in NSW have a boss friendly industrial relations policy of worker /boss committees on wages without union involvement. ‘Real’ Labor you are not.

  8. David Evans
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 11:49 pm | Permalink

    A little searching reveals that Mr O’Donohue not only began the DLP in NSW but remains the sole Registered Officer for that State branch to this day.

    The State branch also has never supported the Victorian John Madigan.

    Mr O’Donohue has been battling against a group that is calling itself the DLP NSW Branch and which has never had any association with him.

    There is no precedent for other associations laying claim to being the State division of a political party as has been the misfortune of Mr O’Donohue. It appears that he does not deserve this kind of challenge. It is hardly ‘democratic’ when meetings are held by small groups of people to allege legitimacy having never been a part of a State division of the DLP.

    Only one State branch may exist at any one time. Electoral commissions are aware of the integrity of single State branch entities.

  9. Daniel
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 12:58 am | Permalink

    I followed the link posted above by John Stephens, and it shows Nicholas Williams as the registered officer for the DLP in NSW.

    Can you show me where “a little searching reveals that Mr O’Donohue not only began the DLP in NSW but remains the sole Registered Officer for that State branch to this day” please?

    • Ronald
      Posted July 27, 2012 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

      Nick Williams has only commenced the position of registered officer this week.
      For the previous two years his rightwing band have lived as though they held the reigns. They behaved as though the Branch from 2008 was designed for them despite its creation by a different Executive and whose membership they bypassed.
      This situation does not augur well for democracy within Australia or for the DLP.
      The DLP in Victoria has been deeply divided in Victoria when a similar situation of ingratitude was served up to John Mulholland.

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